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and president assad staying in power, could use such chemical weapons against his own people. from the defense secretary on down, the world be reacted to the news today. we begin with our chief foreign correspondent affairs, andrea mitchell. >> reporter: they warned today that the chemical threat is imminent, from a syrian regime that seems to be losing control. >> reporter: with the war turning against the syrian regime, fears rose of a nightmare scenario that once cornered the desperate bashar al-assad, may use chemical weapons against the world or against his own people. >> the whole world is watching, the whole world is watching very closely. and the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be consequences. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence as first reported by nbc news indicates that syria's military has loaded the precursor bombs, even a tiny bomb can attack the nervous system, killing within seconds or minutes, most of syria's sophisticated weapons are from russia, syria's most powerful ally. but today, they were so alarmed about the chemical thre
and president assad staying in power, could use such chemical weapons against his own people. from the defense secretary on down, the world be reacted to the news today. we begin with our chief foreign correspondent affairs, andrea mitchell. >> reporter: they warned today that the chemical threat is imminent, from a syrian regime that seems to be losing control. >> reporter: with the war turning against the syrian regime, fears rose of a nightmare scenario that once cornered the...
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you've actually met president assad. tell me your impression. >> on our way to iraq we had to go -- we were asked to go and stop by to see assad. this was right after, maybe six months after president obama was elected. the whole purpose was to get assad who had the relationship with iran to work with iran to bring them into the tent so that we could work on the palestine israeli issue. we were working at that time with egypt and also with jordan. well, one of the first things he said, america i, your president said i'm the axis of evil. another sheriff. we had another conversation. he thought that was the case. his personality was such that he was low key. we talked for a long period of time. we had to say we had to go. i said to him look. you're in a position to do something in the world, to bring peace. your father is dead, your brother was killed however he was killed, and now you have that relationship. we then talked about helping his people, how this could help his people to bring peace to the area if we could bri
you've actually met president assad. tell me your impression. >> on our way to iraq we had to go -- we were asked to go and stop by to see assad. this was right after, maybe six months after president obama was elected. the whole purpose was to get assad who had the relationship with iran to work with iran to bring them into the tent so that we could work on the palestine israeli issue. we were working at that time with egypt and also with jordan. well, one of the first things he said,...
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. >> i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences, and you will be held accountable. >> reporter: a senior official tells abc news that there are contingency plans for military action if the weapons became a threat. the syrian regime said today it would not use chemical weapons under any circumstance, but president assad's father used them, diane, and assad himself has been massacring his citizens for nearly two straight years, as you know. >> i do, and thank you, martha raddatz, reporting in on syria tonight. >>> and now we turn to a health alert from the nation's top doctors. flu season has begun weeks ahead of schedule, and it's promising to be a bruising year for the flu. but abc's chief medical editor dr. richard besser says there is a smart way to take care of your family tonight. >> reporter: you may get something you don't want for christmas, a nasty flu. today the cdc announced f
. >> i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences, and you will be held accountable. >> reporter: a senior official tells abc news that there are contingency plans for military action if the weapons became a threat. the syrian regime said today it would not use chemical weapons under any...
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it leads assad to think it's better to fight to the bitter end. it's in those circumstances that the use of chemical weapons unfortunately is a realistic option. >> greta: are we like days away with syria? >> look. i predicted before that assad was close to falling, and he's had remarkable staying power. it does look this time like his situation is deteriorating rapidly which again is consistent with the idea he would get ready to use chemical weapons or at least he would try to move them into areas clearly controlled where he might try and enclave defever defense as t stand. >> greta: coming up, a california teacher apparently has a problem with success. they put together a video cartoon for students showing the rich urinating on the poor. that's not all. we'll show you next. in two minutes, who is president obama now blaming for ambassador rice's problems? that shocking answer just two minutes away. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell m
it leads assad to think it's better to fight to the bitter end. it's in those circumstances that the use of chemical weapons unfortunately is a realistic option. >> greta: are we like days away with syria? >> look. i predicted before that assad was close to falling, and he's had remarkable staying power. it does look this time like his situation is deteriorating rapidly which again is consistent with the idea he would get ready to use chemical weapons or at least he would try to...
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but the russians insisted no pictures could be taken show low them discussing assad critics want the administration to >> reporter: the u.s. critics want the administration to consider military options. >> we do know absolutely that these weapons have been readied for use by bashar al-assad's aircraft. again, i urge, we urge the president of the united states to make whatever military preparations are necessary. >> reporter: another military imperative, securing the weapons if assad loses control. >> it is absolutely important that terrorist groups not obtain possession of those weapons, and then try to use them against any other country or any other group within syria. >> reporter: there are military operations, but privately, the u.s. military officials concede that the pre-emptive strike could be risky and could even spread the deadly sarin gas, if he were to launch the weapons, an attack could be likely against him and his officials. >> andrea mitchell, thank you, here we go in egypt, where the new president who replaced the old president, hosni mubarak, after he was deposed, tri
but the russians insisted no pictures could be taken show low them discussing assad critics want the administration to >> reporter: the u.s. critics want the administration to consider military options. >> we do know absolutely that these weapons have been readied for use by bashar al-assad's aircraft. again, i urge, we urge the president of the united states to make whatever military preparations are necessary. >> reporter: another military imperative, securing the weapons if...
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if rebels do take that airport it would be a major defeat for the bashar al-assad. it would cut off an important supply line for the bashar al-assad regime which relies on that airport to get supplies in and out. there are reports the rebels have gained access to heavy syrian tanks and other heavy weapons. much of the fighting is street to street, block to block, house to house, urban combat at its worst. hillary clinton says the events in syria are accelerating, and both sides are talking about some way to try to find some type of resolution to this war in syria that has lasted nearly two years long. russia a big supporter of the bashar al-assad, the russian foreign minister met with secretary clinton in bu dublin. she felt the meeting upbeat thinking there may be a come proeu myself in th compromise in the future. right now there is nothing concrete and syrians continue to die. >> reporter: with every step forward the opposition makes in syria it raises concerns that a cornered president bashar al-assad could be more likely to use those chemical weapons that are a
if rebels do take that airport it would be a major defeat for the bashar al-assad. it would cut off an important supply line for the bashar al-assad regime which relies on that airport to get supplies in and out. there are reports the rebels have gained access to heavy syrian tanks and other heavy weapons. much of the fighting is street to street, block to block, house to house, urban combat at its worst. hillary clinton says the events in syria are accelerating, and both sides are talking...
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the assad dictatorship has ruled syria for more than 40 years. the syrian people rebelled last year and it's been open warfare ever since. it's extremely hazardous for reporters to get into the war zone, but elizabeth palmer managed to reach a neighborhood under siege on the outskirts of the capital city, damascus. >> reporter: it's 6:00 p.m. the heavy shelling doesn't usually start until 9:00, so it's safe to go for a tour of this wrecked and virtually deserted neighborhood. this was one of the first neighborhoods to rise up against president bashar al-assad and for almost two years it's been punished. now 80% of the residents have been driven out. our guide was 21-year-old sara. the few people who remain here are too poor to leave or, like sara, too committed to the anti- regime fight. you're among the 20% who stayed. why? better to live here and die with dignity than go to a refugee camp? >> yes, die and we will be proud. >> reporter: at home, most days there is enough to eat for three generations of this family. but only sporadic electricity
the assad dictatorship has ruled syria for more than 40 years. the syrian people rebelled last year and it's been open warfare ever since. it's extremely hazardous for reporters to get into the war zone, but elizabeth palmer managed to reach a neighborhood under siege on the outskirts of the capital city, damascus. >> reporter: it's 6:00 p.m. the heavy shelling doesn't usually start until 9:00, so it's safe to go for a tour of this wrecked and virtually deserted neighborhood. this was one...
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whether assad would do that or whether he would say you know what? i can't hold onto my air fields anymore, i can't necessarily drive the insurgents out of some key territory they've established around damascus, but maybe with the sarin gas, maybe i can blanket the area and take back that particular tactical location. that may be the kind of thinking that they're working through in assad's inner circle. michael o'hanlon, thanks so very much. >> thank you, martin. >> we'll be right back. before cdw virtualized it. how? cdw and hp networking implemented a virtual application network that reduces the time to deploy cloud location. applications from months to minutes. with fewer bottlenecks like this. finally. charles! client golf. aim for the lake. really? a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this plan has the lowest part
whether assad would do that or whether he would say you know what? i can't hold onto my air fields anymore, i can't necessarily drive the insurgents out of some key territory they've established around damascus, but maybe with the sarin gas, maybe i can blanket the area and take back that particular tactical location. that may be the kind of thinking that they're working through in assad's inner circle. michael o'hanlon, thanks so very much. >> thank you, martin. >> we'll be right...
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the deputy foreign minister said he's 100% sure that assad will never, ever leave syria. lou: thank you very much. chief washington correspondent, and joining us now, fox news middle east and teror analyst, fellow at the washington institute for near east policy. gentlemen, thank you for being here. beginning withou, just received word that the president smoke with morsi today talking about the number of deaths and concern about the result of the monstrations. this is now a region that seems to be of behaving in ways in which this adnistration could not have anticipated did not a year ago, six months ago. your thoughts on what's happening now? >> well, ii's happening right now is balance of force, of demonstrations between the morsi regime, which is still trying to assert itself, the gun to influence the army, bu did not complete the job, so the army is not completely under the hands of morsi, but, on the other hand, a dynamic opposition uniting against morsi and has been early on the responsible for the urising in egypt against mubarak, replaced with the brotherhood, and
the deputy foreign minister said he's 100% sure that assad will never, ever leave syria. lou: thank you very much. chief washington correspondent, and joining us now, fox news middle east and teror analyst, fellow at the washington institute for near east policy. gentlemen, thank you for being here. beginning withou, just received word that the president smoke with morsi today talking about the number of deaths and concern about the result of the monstrations. this is now a region that seems to...
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president bashar al-assad wants do and indeed has to hang on to the capital if he is to stay in power. there are many experts who believe either way, he has decided to fight to the death. either if he tries to flow he will be killed by his own supporters who will feel betrayed him him or ultimately he will be killed by the rebels. this, while it does seem to be the end days for the bashar al-assad regime, it could yet stretch on for some days or even weeks. that because the rebels simply are not strong enough to defeat the syrian security forces in one battle. what we are seeing is an intense battle of attrition. most experts will tell you, his days are numbered. >> the big question on the international stage now, jonathan, will he use the chemical weapons at the last moment. >>jonathan: there are real concerns. a lot of people call him a cornered rat fighting to the death and therefore use every weapon in his arsenal. there are others, though, who think that assad is highly unlikely to do that, he has been wanted by everyone, including his allies, the russians, that it would be a gra
president bashar al-assad wants do and indeed has to hang on to the capital if he is to stay in power. there are many experts who believe either way, he has decided to fight to the death. either if he tries to flow he will be killed by his own supporters who will feel betrayed him him or ultimately he will be killed by the rebels. this, while it does seem to be the end days for the bashar al-assad regime, it could yet stretch on for some days or even weeks. that because the rebels simply are...
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>> one faint hope we have, but it's still hope, is russia will intervene with president assad and try to convince him this is committing suicide with horrific consequences. it's one of the most -- this sarin gas, one of the most lethal gas that's ever been invented. and the second thing is to convince bashar assad, that i'm not sure he's convinced of, that the consequences of these weapons would have an immediate and devastating response. and reason why i say i'm not sure he believes us, he's watched us leave arack in disarray, he's watched al-qaeda return to arack, he's seen our consulate attacked and no one has paid a price for it for the deaths of four americans. he's watched al-qaeda return and take over mali, he's seen us announcement after announcement of withdrawal from afghanistan and a perception throughout the middle that the united states is withdrawing and weak and i hope he doesn't believe that because i do believe the president when he said he will act. but talking about red lines he's giving a green light to assad to do anything short of that. >> here's the problem with
>> one faint hope we have, but it's still hope, is russia will intervene with president assad and try to convince him this is committing suicide with horrific consequences. it's one of the most -- this sarin gas, one of the most lethal gas that's ever been invented. and the second thing is to convince bashar assad, that i'm not sure he's convinced of, that the consequences of these weapons would have an immediate and devastating response. and reason why i say i'm not sure he believes us,...
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. >>> serious chemical weapons stockpiles are on the move raising fears the assad regime is prepared to deploy phem against rebels. the u.s. says it is ready to take action if it does. will this unravel a mideast already on the brink? details coming up next. >>> plus would you sell away your name for an entire year? one florida man is doing exactly that. he is sparking a bidding war between companies that want it. he will explain. "piles of money" coming up. ♪ . from 17 billion chips worldwide to a world of super-connected intelligence. e potential of freescale unlocked. nyseuronext. unlocking the world's potential. to investing with knowledge. the potential of td ameritrade unloed. nyse euronext. unlocking the world's potential. >> i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do in the event of a credible evidence that assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people but suffice it to say we are certainly planning to take action if that eventualty were to occur. melissa: secretary of state hillary clinton responding to reports syria's regim
. >>> serious chemical weapons stockpiles are on the move raising fears the assad regime is prepared to deploy phem against rebels. the u.s. says it is ready to take action if it does. will this unravel a mideast already on the brink? details coming up next. >>> plus would you sell away your name for an entire year? one florida man is doing exactly that. he is sparking a bidding war between companies that want it. he will explain. "piles of money" coming up. ♪ ....
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united states and nato agreeing to deploy patriot weapons and to thwart an aso-called by assad. the missile systems to be positioned near the syria. his staff denies that and estimates if they were deploy troops, it requires 75,000 of the troops in a full ground invasionn order seize the chemical weapon stockpile. fox news confirming they were not ordered to draft the consideration of such a mission. secretary of state clinton is nonetheless talking very tough calling for assad to step down as the obama administration has done for the past 15 months, b refusing, still, to detail which consequences those would be. >> we will explore with like-minded countries what more we can do to bring the conflict to an end, but that will require the assad regime making the decision to participate in a political transition, ending the violence against its own people, and we hope thathey do so because we believe, as you know, that their fall is inevitable, but it's a question of how many people will die until that day occurs. lou: the violence, and morsi protesters in the street, and large scal
united states and nato agreeing to deploy patriot weapons and to thwart an aso-called by assad. the missile systems to be positioned near the syria. his staff denies that and estimates if they were deploy troops, it requires 75,000 of the troops in a full ground invasionn order seize the chemical weapon stockpile. fox news confirming they were not ordered to draft the consideration of such a mission. secretary of state clinton is nonetheless talking very tough calling for assad to step down as...
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we did nothing to help those that bashar al-assad in there hurting and oppressing and killing. >> no. melissa: thank you so much for coming on. we appreciate it. >> it is always a pleasure. melissa: up next you think phe fiscal cliff is giving you a headache? we'll tell you why taking the plunge is giving a lot of doctors full-on ulcers. >>> plus california's plan to be the green energy leader could take businesses an consumers out at the knees. a bipartisan report warns governor jerry brown to step in. the head of it is here to explain why. i feel like he is not going to. we'll see. "piles of money" coming up. jerry brown is not going to step in. ♪ . ♪ male announcer ] how could a luminous protein in jellyfish, impact life expectancy in the u.s., re estate in hong kong, and the optics industry in germany? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason er 75% of our mutual funds eat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, f
we did nothing to help those that bashar al-assad in there hurting and oppressing and killing. >> no. melissa: thank you so much for coming on. we appreciate it. >> it is always a pleasure. melissa: up next you think phe fiscal cliff is giving you a headache? we'll tell you why taking the plunge is giving a lot of doctors full-on ulcers. >>> plus california's plan to be the green energy leader could take businesses an consumers out at the knees. a bipartisan report warns...
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and all it would take is the final order from syrian president assad. as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned very desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military has now loaded the pre cursor for bombs, that could be dropped from dozens of fighter bombers. this week, u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity here, near homes. today, while u.s. officials confirm the precursor chemicals are loaded, they must still be mixed together to create the deadly gas. the alarm shook the world, including president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton issued strong warnings to syria's president assad, there would be strong consequences if he used chemical weapons. >> they would lose any sort of backing they had with china and russia, in terms of blocking the vote. >> reporter: the chemical mix is devastating. iraq's saddam used it in 1988. u.s. officials stress tonight that as of now these weapons remain in the depots have not been loaded on to any planes, and that president as
and all it would take is the final order from syrian president assad. as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned very desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military has now loaded the pre cursor for bombs, that could be dropped from dozens of fighter bombers. this week, u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity here, near homes. today, while u.s. officials confirm the precursor chemicals are loaded, they must still...
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jeremy bowen, with our bbc partners, is there tonight and reports assad's forces are waging a fierce defense. >> throughout the day and after dark, when i'm speaking to you, there are quite steady explosions of shell fire, outgoing artillery fire, going into the suburbs around the center of the city, where i am. >> reporter: residents are caught in a worsening cross fire. >> people who came from areas that are being shelled, they are on the streets, many children, sometimes you see them crying, old people are sleeping on the ground. >> reporte but nothing is this horrific war has gotten the attention of u.s. officials more than this chemical weapons threat. >> these reports may mean that the united states and our allies are facing the prospect of an imminent use of weapons of mass destruction in syria. this may be the last warning we get. >> reporter: i can tell you planning for all sorts of con tin jen sips is already well under way. but military action would not be easy. it could take upwards of 75,000 troops to secure those chemical weapons, which no one is eager to provide. but p
jeremy bowen, with our bbc partners, is there tonight and reports assad's forces are waging a fierce defense. >> throughout the day and after dark, when i'm speaking to you, there are quite steady explosions of shell fire, outgoing artillery fire, going into the suburbs around the center of the city, where i am. >> reporter: residents are caught in a worsening cross fire. >> people who came from areas that are being shelled, they are on the streets, many children, sometimes...
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>> i don't know why, anderson, but i think it's important to note that bashir al assad may interpret that as a green light for everything else. in other words, do everything up to but not including the use of chemical weapons. but at the same time, i do understand the concern about the use of nerve gas which is in their inventory, which depending on how heavily populated the area that they use it on, could result in unbelievable deaths that, you know, possibly in tens of thousands if they use the right kind of chemical weapon. so i can understand the administration's concern but maybe they don't realize that they are also sending a green light to bashir al assad that he can do anything short of that. >> what would it mean to try to stop chemical weapons from being used? >> i think it would have to be -- it would be very complicated. i don't think you could send enough american troops on the ground. i don't think that would be an option. you may have to try to take out the stocks from the air. we do know where a lot of them are. frankly, i don't -- i've had significant military backgr
>> i don't know why, anderson, but i think it's important to note that bashir al assad may interpret that as a green light for everything else. in other words, do everything up to but not including the use of chemical weapons. but at the same time, i do understand the concern about the use of nerve gas which is in their inventory, which depending on how heavily populated the area that they use it on, could result in unbelievable deaths that, you know, possibly in tens of thousands if they...
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they understand assad cannot -- syria, first of all, their ally, even if assad survives, which is unlikely, is never going to emerge in the same coherent, cohesive state, that the nation that they had supported these many years. they're, i think, beginning to understand that their assets, their interests, their influence on the ground in syria, would be much better protected if they began to hedge their bets. whether or not they can work to actually facilitate assad's departure, or demise is another matter and whether they would be willing to work with us. the russians are tired, putin in particular, of watching the united states bring down its former clients, gadhafi in libya saddam and now the assad. so i think as a former great power, the russians read reality but i think will be cautious in wanting to create a kind of western or u.s. imposed solution in syria. >> thank you so much, aaron david miller. >> pleasure. >> and up next, fixing the debt. we will tea talk to former senator judd greg. that pink cas. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind a
they understand assad cannot -- syria, first of all, their ally, even if assad survives, which is unlikely, is never going to emerge in the same coherent, cohesive state, that the nation that they had supported these many years. they're, i think, beginning to understand that their assets, their interests, their influence on the ground in syria, would be much better protected if they began to hedge their bets. whether or not they can work to actually facilitate assad's departure, or demise is...
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it was firmly in the control of assad but it may be weakening. there is a growing humanitarian crisis. in addition to the 40,000 people killed the un said 700,000 syrians are displaced and the number could go higher with the onset of winter, harris. >> north korea about to show off a long-range missile test. there - their goal is to put a in orbit. the u.s. said it is cover for the real goal of developing a successful long-range ballustic missile. north korea is banned by testing them by the united nations and the last one in april didn't end well for them. the new test is expected to further strain relations between north korea and washington. the state department issuing a statement saying devoting scarce resources to the development of weapons and long range missiles . it is reaching out to allies on how to respond. >> a search for bodies after a plane crashes in a dozep houses. -- dozen house us. >> congo, that crash happening near the airport. soviet made cargo plane attempting to land in a thunderstorm. 32 bodies are already pulled from the
it was firmly in the control of assad but it may be weakening. there is a growing humanitarian crisis. in addition to the 40,000 people killed the un said 700,000 syrians are displaced and the number could go higher with the onset of winter, harris. >> north korea about to show off a long-range missile test. there - their goal is to put a in orbit. the u.s. said it is cover for the real goal of developing a successful long-range ballustic missile. north korea is banned by testing them by...
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is there an exit strategy for assad? though the u.n. secretary of general said yesterday the world should not let him seek asylum senator kerry told andrea mitchell he disagrees. >> it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is orderly because the alternative to that is you could have 200,000, 500,000 people killed. >> if syria crosses the red line in chemical weapons what will the u.s. do? middle east expert jeffrey goldberg joins us on the escalating violence across the region in a scoop that some people missed that he had. we'll expose it here. plus an msnbc news exclusive. afghan president hamid karzai blames the u.s. and nato forces for what he says is growing insecurity in his country. what he told our own reporter about the future of the relationship between the two countries and he weighs in on the petraeus scandal. we'll be live in kabul next. but first a look ahead at the president's schedule. we have a photo op today on the fiscal cliff. he heads over to fa
is there an exit strategy for assad? though the u.n. secretary of general said yesterday the world should not let him seek asylum senator kerry told andrea mitchell he disagrees. >> it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is orderly because the alternative to that is you could have 200,000, 500,000 people killed. >> if syria crosses the red line in chemical weapons what will the u.s. do? middle east expert...
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plus, syrian president al assad aaccuses the u.s. of manufacturing stories as a pretext for an invasion. defense secretary leon panetta responding today. after john mack cahfee is in cu, he was rushed to the hospital. and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. anyone have...
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he said he had a message to assad and those around him. is that a message about future potential war crimes prosecutions or is it a message trying to encourage those around him to maybe get out of town, defect? >> well, i think it is -- it's sort of both to those around him, you know. you can stand with him and run the risk of being prosecuted or killed in a conflict, or you can turn but i think it's also a message not simply to the syrians around assad, i think it is also a subtler message to the iranian regime that is clearly continuing to support assad with weapons and training and advice, though i think it's both to those immediately around him and to iran. >> bob, given the iraq history, there could be some skepticism starts talking about intelligence, weapons of mass destruction. but there are multiple sources of intelligence in this indication. how serious is this threat, the fact they're actually possibly mixing the chemical agents? >> oh, this is deadly serious. on iraq, a lot of it was hypothesis before we went in 2003, as the bu
he said he had a message to assad and those around him. is that a message about future potential war crimes prosecutions or is it a message trying to encourage those around him to maybe get out of town, defect? >> well, i think it is -- it's sort of both to those around him, you know. you can stand with him and run the risk of being prosecuted or killed in a conflict, or you can turn but i think it's also a message not simply to the syrians around assad, i think it is also a subtler...
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>> so far on the international stage there are only two countries supporting the assad regime, international institutions like the u.n. for example. one is russia. the second is china. you have iran but iran is considered an outlaw in the international system today. these are the countries that are still supporting syria. and it is time for the russians to basically come clean about their support o a regime that is getting ready to use chemical weapons against its own people. syria is breaking down. syria is not libya. syria is in the middle of the lavant. if this break down will spill over into jordan, it will spill over into iraq and still over into lebanon. all these places are powder kegs waiting to, flowed. so the russians have moral responsibility to sit down with the international community and explain why they are still supporting this regime that is willing to use it seems, chemical weapons against its own people. that is not the first time these weapons have been used against innocent people in the middle east. remember saddam in the '80s, he used them against the kurds killing tho
>> so far on the international stage there are only two countries supporting the assad regime, international institutions like the u.n. for example. one is russia. the second is china. you have iran but iran is considered an outlaw in the international system today. these are the countries that are still supporting syria. and it is time for the russians to basically come clean about their support o a regime that is getting ready to use chemical weapons against its own people. syria is...
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what happens if assad does go forth with the chemical warfare. senator mccain is discussing the role of the united states. >> i think we would be directly responsible. all of those who argued against intervention warned us that if we intervene these terrible things would happen. well, we did intervene and all of these terrible things, the consequences have been huge as we sat by and watched these 40,000 people massacred. it was very clear that there is more al qaeda and jihadists in syria. some of the arms because we didn't supply it supplied from saudi arabia and qutar gone to saudi rab gnaw and jihadist. because we didn't establish a safe zone for them to organize and basically have a benghazi they have been disjointed and unable to coordinate together. this is a serious crisis and we have to be prepared to put american troops, not to fight, not to be on the ground to fight but perhaps american troops to secure these weapon storage areas that we know where they are. no one wants american boots on the ground anywhere in the middle east any more.
what happens if assad does go forth with the chemical warfare. senator mccain is discussing the role of the united states. >> i think we would be directly responsible. all of those who argued against intervention warned us that if we intervene these terrible things would happen. well, we did intervene and all of these terrible things, the consequences have been huge as we sat by and watched these 40,000 people massacred. it was very clear that there is more al qaeda and jihadists in...
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. >> today i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. [ applause ] >> there will be consequences. what will those consequences be? no one is saying, but everybody who is saying there are consequences are saying it in a way would be a very big deal. >> this is a redline for the united states. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence that the assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people, but suffice it to say we are certainly planning to take action. >> apparently we are planning to take action. when a conflict has been going on somewhere in the world for a long time, it's sometimes hard to tell when a development in that far-away conflict in that war crosses the line into being a big deal, into being a newsworthy thing for the world. what is maybe happening in syria is o
. >> today i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. [ applause ] >> there will be consequences. what will those consequences be? no one is saying, but everybody who is saying there are consequences are saying it in a way would be a very big deal....
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bashar al-assad continues to massacre his own people. now we are supposed to believe, as things continue spiraling downward in the nation, what we are supposed to trust him? his grip on power is loosening? >> i think it is entirely possible that bashar al-assad would use chemical weapons. especially due to the collapse of his regime. there are other less threatening explanations. he is just moving the weapons were the agents out of range or preparing for an enclave strategy if the country falls apart. you know, the united states and western options are kind of difficult here. if assad does begin to use the chemical agent, are people on the ground would be at risk. it's hard to see exactly what the administration is planning. whether this threat actually moved assad to change the policy is hard to judge at this point. megyn: look at this. look at these children. running for their lives. we have seen this. i am just disgusted at how many times we have seen us. if i get one more report about a child being tortured by this regime, and now we
bashar al-assad continues to massacre his own people. now we are supposed to believe, as things continue spiraling downward in the nation, what we are supposed to trust him? his grip on power is loosening? >> i think it is entirely possible that bashar al-assad would use chemical weapons. especially due to the collapse of his regime. there are other less threatening explanations. he is just moving the weapons were the agents out of range or preparing for an enclave strategy if the country...
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now, the assess smt that assad isn't ready to go. the u.s. says it hasn't seen anything in term of concrete offers. maybe assad's commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. >> next, 57% of americans say they'd vote for hillary clinton in four years. think about how cent elections have gone. that would be an incredible mandate. what does she say about iran? >>> and john mcafee still on the run after his neighbor was found murdered. martin savidge tracked him down and he is "outfront" next. sure don't you? [ nyquil bottle ] dude! [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. so, the 5.3-liter v-8 silverado can tow up to 9,600 pounds? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer power? [ laughing ] [ stops laughing ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. this holiday season, trade up to get the 2012 chevy silverado all-star edition for 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $2,000 cash allowance or get a total value of $9,000. five days later, i had a m
now, the assess smt that assad isn't ready to go. the u.s. says it hasn't seen anything in term of concrete offers. maybe assad's commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. >> next, 57% of americans say they'd vote for hillary clinton in four years. think about how cent elections have gone. that would be an incredible mandate. what does she say about iran? >>> and john mcafee still on the run after his neighbor was found murdered. martin savidge...
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we also don't know at what point would the assad regime re-sort to using sarin. it's my hypothesis that they will if they start getting slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people at risk in areas where assad regime might use them r or could use them or some other group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something you can do? >> they don't have access to medications, the at row peen for for example. you have to goit of the area, which sounds simplistic. because it's odorless and tasteless and hard to detect, you have to get out of the area. you can get poisoned by ingestion and inhaling and touching it. it can be on your clothes, for example. you get out of the way and take off your clothes or anything exposed to it. soap and water and try to rinse your body. it's a heavier gas as compared to what else is in the area, so it lingers closer to the ground. getting to higher elevation can help. these sound like simplistic things but short of a medication given right away, there's not much else to do. >> it's really scary stuff
we also don't know at what point would the assad regime re-sort to using sarin. it's my hypothesis that they will if they start getting slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people at risk in areas where assad regime might use them r or could use them or some other group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something you can do? >> they don't have access to medications, the at row peen for for example. you have to goit of the area, which sounds...
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>>neil: maybe they are hanging their hat on this possibility of russia playing a role in getting assad to step down but that at best is wish will thinking, i think, and hanging your hopes on not having a backbone if you can get a back door deal with the guy who is kill all the people. >> russia has been supplying the assad regime with weapons. russia is one of the worst players in the middle east. in fact, it is very hard to come up with anything positive. russia has contributed to the middle east in living memory. i can't think of anything. >>neil: the united nations will do what? they get involved in all these other ridiculous time consuming wasteful enterprises and this is fat more immediate crisis. >>guest: what is going on is something we really should be asking, is it possible to set up alternative institutions, treaties, anything, to get things done that serve the needs of modern free societies because the n right now has done nothing to solve the horrors in syria, the iranian nuclear weapons program, the north korean weapons program and they are ready to test another ballistic
>>neil: maybe they are hanging their hat on this possibility of russia playing a role in getting assad to step down but that at best is wish will thinking, i think, and hanging your hopes on not having a backbone if you can get a back door deal with the guy who is kill all the people. >> russia has been supplying the assad regime with weapons. russia is one of the worst players in the middle east. in fact, it is very hard to come up with anything positive. russia has contributed to...
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president obama puts the syrian president bashar al assad on notice. the president is reacting to new notice that the regime is mixing with chemicals to make deadly gas. and today, i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is an would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> assad is on the edge of president obama's so-called red line against syria. the president said the summer that syria's use or movement of chemical weapons could mean u.s. intervention, so "outfront" tonight, barbara starr. how exactly clear is the evidence in fact they are now moving in a new step in the direction with chemical weapons? >> it was just over the weekend that the intelligence began coming in showing that the assad regime was mixing agents, chemicals to make the gas. they're not telling us exactly what the evidence is, but they are saying they have multiple sources of intelligence. t
president obama puts the syrian president bashar al assad on notice. the president is reacting to new notice that the regime is mixing with chemicals to make deadly gas. and today, i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is an would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> assad is on the edge of...
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and really just send a signal to assad that this will only have one outcome. the important thing here is that is to show that in the end it is a matter of time. it's -- it's when and not if. now there are also, i think, signs that for russia and china, i think they would be prepared, possibly, to look at a way you could manage an outcome of this, so that you get some form of agreement that -- >> provide asylum, we're getting him out -- >> -- but for the rest of the world, such are the consequences of this disintegration are happening, most people look at any reason to get him out, get a new form of democratic constitution in, and then try and stabilize the situation. >> i'm going to make a very sharp turn to talk about something much more joyful, which is the news of the oil baby, whose birth is impending. we know that catherine is in the hospital now. what is the -- what's it like in, in london, in great britain, with this kind of news? people must just be going insane. >> well, you know, britain loves the royal family. so, and people are very happy, very joy
and really just send a signal to assad that this will only have one outcome. the important thing here is that is to show that in the end it is a matter of time. it's -- it's when and not if. now there are also, i think, signs that for russia and china, i think they would be prepared, possibly, to look at a way you could manage an outcome of this, so that you get some form of agreement that -- >> provide asylum, we're getting him out -- >> -- but for the rest of the world, such are...
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i don't think they are walking away from assad anytime soon. megyn: if these chemical weapons are used, what do you expect the u.s. reaction to be? >> i would hope they would do something about it before they are used. and our intelligence service would see the weap weapons for deployment and the readiness to use them. and those sites being prepared, the israelis would want to bomb those sites. it depend on where the site is and its approximate i amity to population centers and it depend on what type of agent is at that site. nonetheless. the second problem we have, martha, and the one that concerns us quite dramatically. some of these weapons fall into the hands of radical groups that would use them as terrorist weapons later on. that would mean at some point regardless of how this conflict will end. we would have to secure those chemical sites. we wouldn't do it by ourselves buff it would be a regional approach to secure those sites. megyn: so many concerns on so many levels. general keane, thank you, good to talk to you this morning. bill: t
i don't think they are walking away from assad anytime soon. megyn: if these chemical weapons are used, what do you expect the u.s. reaction to be? >> i would hope they would do something about it before they are used. and our intelligence service would see the weap weapons for deployment and the readiness to use them. and those sites being prepared, the israelis would want to bomb those sites. it depend on where the site is and its approximate i amity to population centers and it depend...
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when they see this move, they have to determine rapidly, what are assad's intentions. they're not sure about that right now. get other countries in the region, involved. don't forget, israel lies right over the border. the israelis may not be so patient and wait to see if the chemical weapons are going to be used. >> it's going to make everyone nervous. how deadly is sarin gas? >> 500 times more lethal than cyanide. without an anti-dote and there would be none available to syrian people. it could kill you within minutes. nasty business. >> barbara starr, thanks. appreciate that. troubling developments out of syria come as hillary clinton made repeated the united states position that it will not tolerate the use of chemical weapons. >> we have made our views very clear. this is a red line for the united states. >> so is the united states about to get involved in syria's 20-month-old conflict? out front tonight, bob baer, peter brooks. nice to have both of you with us. bob, what do you think when does the united states get involved? >> i think the fact they're mixing it
when they see this move, they have to determine rapidly, what are assad's intentions. they're not sure about that right now. get other countries in the region, involved. don't forget, israel lies right over the border. the israelis may not be so patient and wait to see if the chemical weapons are going to be used. >> it's going to make everyone nervous. how deadly is sarin gas? >> 500 times more lethal than cyanide. without an anti-dote and there would be none available to syrian...
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it prompted the certain warning from the president. >> i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> jim miklaszewski joins us live. nato foreign leaders including secretary of state clinton are in brussels today expressing concerns of what we hear possibly out of syria. >> tamron, here's what triggered the concerns. the rebels are making significant gains on damascus itself, and there are fears within the obama administration that president assad may be on the verge of panicking because he looks like he's becoming desperate. over the past couple of days intelligence sources reported that somebody in the regime had told the chemical weapons corps to be prepared. at the same time there was a flurry of renewed activity at a number of the chemical wep sites in and around the damascus area indicating to u.s. officials that it appeared at least the syrians were
it prompted the certain warning from the president. >> i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> jim miklaszewski joins us live. nato foreign leaders including secretary of state clinton are in brussels today expressing concerns of what we hear...
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in syria, with the assad regime growing increasingly desperate, intelligence reports indicate that a chemical attack against his own people could be imminent. even russia, syria's most powerful ally, is alarmed. their foreign minister met yesterday with secretary clinton, discussing the possibility of a syria without assad in power. this morning, rebels have declared damascus's airport a military target, warning civilians and airlines not to approach it. >>> and in egypt, tanks and barbed wire barricades returned to the streets of cairo as deadly protests raged outside the presidential palace. egyptian president mohamed morsi is calling for a national dialogue but is resolute about his controversial constitution. nbc's ayman mohyeldin is joining us live from cairo monitoring the situation. let's start with egypt. how much more trouble is morsi in there? >> reporter: well, he's definitely politically isolated because all of egypt's major political factions have really come out against him for both the constitutional decree that gave him absolute powers nearly two weeks ago and kicked
in syria, with the assad regime growing increasingly desperate, intelligence reports indicate that a chemical attack against his own people could be imminent. even russia, syria's most powerful ally, is alarmed. their foreign minister met yesterday with secretary clinton, discussing the possibility of a syria without assad in power. this morning, rebels have declared damascus's airport a military target, warning civilians and airlines not to approach it. >>> and in egypt, tanks and...